thank you for joining us. let's start off with the last point, and that is when you all listened to general petraeus, was he saying something different than the white house was saying in the days after benghazi about what it was, what the attack was about? >> well, when he came before our committee, he said really the same thing that he said september the 14th. i think on september the 14th, though, when you walked away from that hearing, you felt there was more based on a protest. he did say when he communicated to us, but he felt that there were terrorist involved and there could be an al qaeda-type link. he then reiterated this at that time. there's no question that the impression to the american public was that it was a protest, but at this point that was changed, intelligence evolved, and the administration did state that it was not a protest. >> so at this point we know it was not a protest. we still don't know if it was planned or not. we know it went on for hours. the point here for people who may be c